“White people cant experience racism.”
Keep repeating that while:
◎ White people get refused cooking jobs in black neighborhoods because “white people cant cook.” Or “white people dont season their food.”
◎ White rappers are judged on their skin color before their abiities.
◎ Poor white people in the same neighborhoods as black people (in majority blavk or latino neighnoorhoods) are still seen as doing better financially because of their race.
◎ Unarmed white people can be shot by black cops and it isnt made into a race issue.
◎ The majority perpetrator of violence against black people is other black people (by far), yet white people are blamed anyway
◎ Black people being assumed to be or joked about being in a gang is racist, but Italian people being assumed to be or joked about being in the mafia is not.
◎ Black or latino people being assumed drunks is racist, but Irish people being assumed drunks is not.
◎ Southern white people are assumed stupid or incompotent because of their accent and that’s acceptable. But black people with heavy use of slang being assumed stupid or incompotent is racist.
◎ It’s wrong to steroetype black people, but caricatures like Mario are fully acceptable.
◎ Germans and Austrians are assumed to be affiliated with Nazis because of their accents and heritage, but black people or mexicans being assumed druglords is fought against
◎ Europeans and caucasians in general are assumed to have no culture despite mountians of evidence proving otherwise, but ignorance on African culture is assumed to be racism.
◎ White families being against a family member dating a black person is assumed racist and intolerant. Black families being against a family member dating a white person is acceptable and can even be encouraged.
◎ Basically any hardship white people face often gets excused because of their race.
◎ People try to change the definition of racism to excuse their ignorance, stereotyping, hate, and overall racism based on their race.
imagine thinking this makes sense
Imagine justifying treating people like crap for their race by trying to change the definition.
Okay but you can take the european ones rightttttt outta there.
I’m scottish and my country is basically filled to the brim with alcoholics, it’s not some awful damming lie against Irish/Scottish people they’re pretty much all genuinely drunks.
Are you even european?? I am and this is such bullshit holy fuck. Especially considering europe is probably like 90% white. I hadn’t even met a black person till I was like 15.
You should probably slap a big “whites in america” sticker on that and leave the europeans out of that cause there’s no way in hell we experience what ur calling racial abuse.And i am black. About a third of my family has a criminal record. I lived in a neighborhood with an incredibly high crime rate and the perpetrators typically being black. I suppose that means it is acceptable to assume black people are criminals?
But you should also look in the notes. There are other Europeans who have different views than this, which means that it differs from person to person.
I’m confused now that you as a black person have been sucked into this “white people can be racially abused” stuff?
I made a big post on my own page about the abuse I witnessed first hand against my poc friends.
And being white I’ve never been racially profiled or abused? No one has ever just decided to beat me up or wreck my property because I’m a colour they don’t like. Maybe this happens in America, I don’t know. It seems unlikely but I don’t live there.I did not get “sucked into this”.
I made this post.
First off, i do not like being called “poc” that is just “colored people” with the noun and adjective switched. In the US at least, there is a long history with that word.
Second, white people get harmed a lot for being white. Many gangs (as seen in Canada and the US) have initiations that require random acts of violence towards a white person. Genocide in Africa of white people that no one seems to care enough about to cover, and of course the shooting, assaulting, kidnapping, and torture of white people for being white that people often try so very hard to excuse, even when the perpetrator admits to racial motivation. We recently had a group of black teens kidnap and then torture a white person on live video while admitting that their actions were based on the victims race, and people, including the police cheif, were falling over themselves to make light of these people’s actions.
I have personally seen white people in the neighboorhood that I grew up in get harassed, bullied, threatened, and even assaulted for being white. And i saw your post. It was 100 percent based on your personal experiences. Not exactly a good enough argument to deny that people of European descent can experience racism or abuse because of their race.
White people can certainly be victims of racism. Anyone can be racist and anyone can be a victim.
This can happen anywhere in the world. It happens in South Africa, it happens in America, it happens in Japan, etc. anywhere.
But I guess because I’ve never experienced being racially profiled I guess it means that other black people don’t get racially profiled either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Imagine being this much of a coon. How come the response to police brutality is always “black on black” crime. Yes, “black on black” crime happens. Yes black people kill each other. But guess what, white people kill each other, too. But you never hear about “white on white” crime. The term doesn’t even exist. 🙄
Probably because black on black crime is literally the leading cause of death for young black men in the US.
White on white crime isn’t even in the same ballpark.
What does that have to do with the fact that police brutality exists? Just because it’s not the leasing cause of death doesn’t mean it’s not important?
Because when you have movements called black lives matter and scores of people in high crime neighborhoods saying that *now* they feel unsafe, it is astonishing that no one brings up the biggest murderers of black people by far being black. It hints that black lives are far from your actual focus.
No one said that it wasn’t important. It is important for all groups affected. But you all treat it as if it is more important than the much bigger problems that affect black Americans.
Nope. Never said that. I personally don’t agree with what BLM has been doing and their overall message. I personally say we need to be focusing on ALL issues and not just police brutality. I wrote a whole fucking paper about the REAL issue black Americans face and whole it all trickles down. If you ever met me as a person, you would know that I am one of the first people to call out victim card black people who blame their every failure on white people. I was deemed a Trump supporter in high school just for telling my fellow peers that white people are not evil and not all of them are racist and that black people can be racist too, despite me never even claiming Trump in the slightest. Instead of inferring, know that not everything is black and white. I don’t think police brutality is our biggest issue, I never did. I just said it’s an issue.
I appreciate that at least you are critical of BLM, which often claims to speak for all black people despite its faults, but I have some problems with your response. In this very conversation, in this very post, you pulled out the black victim card. You asked a bunch of rhetorical questions about if white people have to worry about things that you assume only black people deal with. One of them was literally talk about how dangerous a neighborhood is. Then your next response admitted that it happened to white people. Part of the black victim card is pretending like issues only affect you or that other races don’t have to deal with something.
You also claim that you do care about other issues instead of just police brutality, and you don’t like people assuming things about your argument that you didn’t even mention. Yet when I brought up the biggest killer of black people, you decided to bring up unrelated issues that weren’t previously mentioned. You didn’t like people calling you a trump supporter based off of your educated opinion, but you had no problem calling me a coon for mine. Do you not see the problem here?
Maybe you’ve never experienced it, but my brother goes to an all white school and he has white friends and they would go on trips and such. Do you know how many times my brother has broken down over the fact that everytime they go someone, he’s always the one getting stopped by someone? He’s always the one being told that he stole something? He’s always the one that’s being told he’s too loud when his white friends are all doing the same? To deny that there are things that black people experience more than white people is just absurd. I never said these things happen to white people. But with black people it happens far too much to be just a coincidence. I’ve personally been the only black person in the group and I got told that I must be the one going to the school using financial aid. It was also implied from the person that I lived “in the hood”. A woman clutched her PURSE when me and my dad boarded the elevator. She was scared half to death. It was because we were black. :T You can’t deny these things. Do I regret calling you a coon? Maybe, but I don’t regret telling you the facts on being black in America. It’s nowhere near as terrible as it was when my grandmother was my age, but it still isn’t what I want it to be. I want my dad to be able to pick and drop off me and my friends without people thinking he just kidnapped a bunch of white girls.
Sigh… I fell like whenever I make a point by bringing up statistics or even your own words, you just skip right past it.
This is maybe the fourth time in this post that you have done this. Instead of a relavent counterargument, you bring up your personal experiences (which can apply to any race), and pretend like that is the reality for all black people. I brought all of this up in the last post and you just ignored it and continued to repeat the problem.
This post is long enough and I don’t see it ending without one of us just letting it go. I will accept your almost apology for calling me a coon. Move on.
What statistic did you bring up? You only showed the crime rate which is already well known knowledge? Haven’t you ever heard from your parents that to be equal to white people you need to be three times as good in something? I refuse to believe that as a black person, you haven’t experienced these things. A majority of black people has experienced prejudice. Maybe you’re just too blind to see it. I’m done. It’s hopeless.
The only race-based prejudice I’ve experienced is being ostracized by blacks for not being “black enough”.
Ever been told by a black person, “You’re so white…” or “You act white…”? It’s infuriating. No, you mean I’m an intelligent young woman. Just because I’m not like you doesn’t make me “white”.
I don’t listen to all these rappers, I don’t like “soul food” (at least, not the way blacks cook it. My mom’s version is so good, but it’s “Asianized”), and if you try to talk to me about anything that “all black people know”, you are guaranteed I never heard of it. Excuse me for living predominantly Asian. Can we at least be acquaintances? Apparently not.
My dad, mind you he was born in the 1950s and acts like it still is that era, would always tell me I’ll always be discriminated against for my skin color.
He was right in the sense that blacks think I’m just as unintelligent as the black kid from the ghetto who didn’t even want to finish high school. As soon as I aim high (or aim for the level I should be at for my intelligence, not my work ethic), it’s the blacks that say “Are you absolutely sure?” and stare at me like I’m biting off more than I can chew. I hated my assigned guidance counselor in freshman year. I registered for sophomore year classes (All Honors except for PreCal) and he ignores what I’ve written and attempts to put me in for lower level classes. I fucking chewed his ass out. The color of my skin doesn’t speak for me; my brains speak for me. But, no, just because I look black, the black man thinks I can’t handle the classes I’ve chosen because he “knows the kids from around here”. Guess what, bitch, I’m not from around here.
I’ve also been told the same thing. This is definitely a thing that needs to stop in the black community. But you are very lucky indeed to not have experienced racial discrimination from other races. Meanwhile, I’ve been called a nigger, uneducated, ghetto, and every other name in the book.
This was by other races. I’m not saying black people can’t be racist because they were EXTREMELY racist at my school. I’m saying ALL races can be racist. But trying to claim that black people experience the same amount of discrimination as another race is just absurd.
I’m not saying you are saying that, btw. Just adding it onto my argument. My brother goes to a predominantly white school and there are about only 4 other black kids in his grade. Everyone calls them each other’s names despite it being close to the end of the year.
My brother was accused of stealing. The only one who got his bag checked even though he was in a group of about 4 other boys. Three of which were white.
I wouldn’t say the same amount of discrimination, but probably not in the same context as you think.
Racism in one country is not the same as it is in another. How each ethnic group sees itself and others in one country is different from the way they do in a different country. What can be applied to the U.S. can’t necessarily be applied to South Africa or Indonesia.
Maybe in one country, blacks do face the same discrimination as Hispanics and Arabs. Maybe in one country, blacks are more likely to be accepted than a light-skinned Asian. In one country, the blacks are the majority and they’re heavily prejudiced against whites.
It honestly depends on where you go, and I believe Cheshire’s original post did speak a bit broadly (I can’t see it in the mobile reblog, I apologize if my memory doesn’t serve me well and I’m a bit incorrect).
Yep! I don’t even have a rebuttal for this. I agree 100%. And I had no problem with Cheshire’s ORIGINAL post. I agree with most of it. I’m also sick of people saying Black People Can’t Be Racist. It was just their statements after. Trying to pretend black people don’t face discrimination at all. That’s what bothered me.
Thanks for having a civil conversation.
That’s where you confuse me. I didn’t see anything that would imply they said blacks don’t face discrimination.
I see them acknowledging that other races can experience the same types of discrimination. I see them acknowledging the issue of taking a (for the U.S.) minority problem into a distinctly black problem.
From my point of view, they’re trying to say that racism is a multi-faceted problem that can affect many ethnic groups in a country. We are aware that every ethnic group experiences it differently, and individuals in that ethnic group experience it differently, however, one ethnic group should not be allowed to take dominance over a movement addressing an issue that affects multiple ethnic groups.
That isn’t a denial of their experiences, but an addressing of grievances as some individuals, or whole ethnic groups, are excluded for not fitting the mold of the dominating group. I’ve seen activists telling non-black minorities (relative to the U.S.) that they have to form their own movement, because theirs is apparently only for blacks.
A response of “Others face discrimination, too.” Feels like they’re saying “Your struggles don’t matter.” And that’s fucked.
They still haven’t acknowledged the struggles of being black in America. And they pretend it doesn’t exist.
im sorry im just gonna butt in because i got really angry halfway through reading this. you know the difference between “black on black crime” and police brutality? the police are a part of the State. the State that is supposed to guarantee equal rights for everyone. that same state that feeds and thrives off systemic inequality. the states mission is a paradox in and on itself, as its supposed to maintain power and economic inequality as steep as it can go while being in charge of providing equal opportunities to everyone. black on black crime is a result of a system that taught black people to be poor, violent and hypermasculine. black on black crime is a result of classism, patriarchy and inequality, whereas police brutality is a way for the state to use its power over certain minorities.
when you say “racism against whites exists” you refer to “most communities of poc will probably side eye u bc they have been screwed over by a racist, classist State, and have been tantalized and ostracized since their culture clashed with Europe and white people”. it is not the same experience for a poc in a predominantly white country/state/city whatever, where the system is rigged against you even before you got a chance to start, than it is for a white man who once got called mayo cracker or a white teen listening to black rappers and having a small group of black people telling him he shouldn’t listen to that.
reverse racism doesn’t exist. prejudices do, but the state is never going to discriminate against anybody because they are white.
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